RSView SE to Panelviewplus

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I have application on RSView SE distributed and we want to add one panelview plus, how to convert or add the graphics from RSView SE to RSView ME?
Thank you
David
 
I know its the exact opposite of what you have asked for but this tech note outlines some of the points involved going from ME to SE. I don't have SE installed just now so I can't have a fiddle to find out. I would have expected some kind of export/import process to at least move the graphics/tags.

It shouldn't be too hard as they do more or less share the same runtime environment, it's just the feature set that has some differences between the two.
 
I'm not sure that you can do this. I know about a year ago I looked at getting graphics from RSView32 to RSView ME to use on a PVP. I wasn't successful. IIRC one of the things I looked at was getting the graphics into RSView SE and then converting them but I don't think that was possible.

I'd talk to your distributor specialist to see if they can shed some light on it.
 
You can convert RSViewSE graphics to RSView ME. It is not a straight forward method and Rockwell did not publish a technote on this.

I did this a year back. I can't remember exactly waht to do. Let me try to put what all I remember.

1.Open RSView SE graphics file in a Hex editor.
2.Search for SE and replace with ME ( remember that you have to type in the hex code for ME )
3.Save the gfx file.
4.Now use import graphics under the disply.
 
Yes you can!

Actually, it's even more complicated from that.

We had a large amount (25 +) displays we needed to convert from SE to ME. We were mainly concerned about some complex drawings we did.

There are a couple of things you need to do to import correctly.
Export the SE file to an XML. Open it in Word pad.

First you have to modify the first three header lines which talk about the version and the display type. The easiest way to do this is to export a sample blank screen from ME, and copy the top three lines of the XML over to to the SE version.

If you try to import now it will work if you are lucky. If it doesn't, some errors will pop up saying what field was invalid. Here are some of the fields and fixes we had to do.

Remove all tooltip="" - If these are all empty, a simple find a replace will do it.
Remove all exposetoVB="<something>" - There are only 2 or 3 options for the <something> so once again find and replace will work.
Any buttons you have will not work in ME. You'll have to find every occurrence of <button and delete that line plus the 10 below it. A macro program makes this easy.
If you have images with the transpose property (or maybe it's transport, either way it's trans something) get rid of that line. A macro program makes this easy.

There may be other errors, but editing the XML files and removing the proper fields should fix it.

Hope this helps anybody who comes across this webpage. I know I wish i knew about this before we re-did about half of the screens.
 
Just an update:

What alphanode (y) wrote is correct but there are a few more things you have to remove:
I converted RSView32 to FactoryTalk View SE then wanted to import whatever possible into FactoryTalk View ME.... which is basically screens minus buttons, numeric displays, numeric input and touch animation... (go to the SE application, right click on "Displays" then choose Import/Export and export them to xml files (you can choose which display to export). Now edit them as below and import them into ME the same way you exported them from SE.

You will also need to do a search/replace and remove:
toolTipText=""
exposeToVba="notExposed"
<button name= down to </button>
<numericDisplay name= down to </numericDisplay> (usually 5 lines)
<numericInput name= down to </numericInput> (usually 5 lines)
Any <animations> that call out <animatetouch down to </animations other animations work, just not the touch animation.
<stringdisplay down to </stringdisplay>

I found the regular notepad editor worked well and anytime you receive an error on the import of the screens it references the line number and position - just be careful you don't delete past the object (above) that you are removing or the error report on import doesn't point you to the correct line...
Good luck!
 
Out of curiosity....why didn't you just drop another node onto the SE network in place of a PanelView?
 
Customer wanted to get away from a PC, there was nothing running on the RSView32 system that couldn't have been done on a PanelView Plus (they evidently chose RSView32 originally because of data logging needs).
 
Customer wanted to get away from a PC, there was nothing running on the RSView32 system that couldn't have been done on a PanelView Plus (they evidently chose RSView32 originally because of data logging needs).

You lost me, you said it was an SE project? Now RSView32?

I assumed it was a customer request. I had a customer in the past who absolutely hated the SE distributed system that was in place. (The engineer came into the role after the SE system was in place). He wanted all PanelViews and SLCs....(n) as stand alone systems. On one hand I understood, on the other such a maintenance nightmare. They had 100+ SLC and PanelView apps throughout the plant.
 
Hey folks,

This thread ended up being useful to me so I figured I would bump it up and contribute. I created a VBA script in Excel to automate the task of editing the SE XML export files to conform to ME standards. It is by no means refined, but I have tested it and used it successfully on a large amount of conversions. If anyone wants to take it and refine it (better interface, batch support, etc.) by all means please do and repost! I am lazy and just needed to mock up something quick after creating a large project in SE only to learn it should've been done in ME.

All testing was done in FTView 8.1.

You will have to change the file extension from .xls to .xlsm.

You can access to the code and see what the macro is doing by pressing Alt+F11 or going through the developer ribbon in Excel.

There is no malicious code in this file, but be wary of files with macros as they can be dangerous; the functionality will likely be disabled when you first open it.

There may also be additional XML tags or attributes that can be found in SE projects that need to be removed for ME imports. If you find some and aren't confident modifying the code yourself to account for it, go ahead and post about your experience and I will revise the file and re-upload!

Thanks!
 
This tool works

Hey folks,

This thread ended up being useful to me so I figured I would bump it up and contribute. I created a VBA script in Excel to automate the task of editing the SE XML export files to conform to ME standards. It is by no means refined, but I have tested it and used it successfully on a large amount of conversions. If anyone wants to take it and refine it (better interface, batch support, etc.) by all means please do and repost! I am lazy and just needed to mock up something quick after creating a large project in SE only to learn it should've been done in ME.

All testing was done in FTView 8.1.

You will have to change the file extension from .xls to .xlsm.

You can access to the code and see what the macro is doing by pressing Alt+F11 or going through the developer ribbon in Excel.

There is no malicious code in this file, but be wary of files with macros as they can be dangerous; the functionality will likely be disabled when you first open it.

There may also be additional XML tags or attributes that can be found in SE projects that need to be removed for ME imports. If you find some and aren't confident modifying the code yourself to account for it, go ahead and post about your experience and I will revise the file and re-upload!

Thanks!

I owe you a big thanks for posting this! Had to manually delete all touch animation and tooltips before it worked. After that, worked like a charm!
 
Hey folks,

This thread ended up being useful to me so I figured I would bump it up and contribute. I created a VBA script in Excel to automate the task of editing the SE XML export files to conform to ME standards. It is by no means refined, but I have tested it and used it successfully on a large amount of conversions. If anyone wants to take it and refine it (better interface, batch support, etc.) by all means please do and repost! I am lazy and just needed to mock up something quick after creating a large project in SE only to learn it should've been done in ME.

All testing was done in FTView 8.1.

Whoa! Awesome post.
I love the XML import/export from FTView Studio for that very reason; VBA scripting in Excel.

Nice work. When I get a chance to convert SE to ME I'll give it a try and let you know if I see any changes to make.
 
Hey folks,

This thread ended up being useful to me so I figured I would bump it up and contribute. I created a VBA script in Excel to automate the task of editing the SE XML export files to conform to ME standards. It is by no means refined, but I have tested it and used it successfully on a large amount of conversions. If anyone wants to take it and refine it (better interface, batch support, etc.) by all means please do and repost! I am lazy and just needed to mock up something quick after creating a large project in SE only to learn it should've been done in ME.

All testing was done in FTView 8.1.

You will have to change the file extension from .xls to .xlsm.

You can access to the code and see what the macro is doing by pressing Alt+F11 or going through the developer ribbon in Excel.

There is no malicious code in this file, but be wary of files with macros as they can be dangerous; the functionality will likely be disabled when you first open it.

There may also be additional XML tags or attributes that can be found in SE projects that need to be removed for ME imports. If you find some and aren't confident modifying the code yourself to account for it, go ahead and post about your experience and I will revise the file and re-upload!

Thanks!

Thank you for this, with small XML edits I got this working for 6.1

Once Converted I had to;
- Delete Line 3
- Delete all linkToolTipText items
there was a 3rd item I had to delete, but can't recall what it is now, but there were only 2-3 instances of it.

But this made the process so much easier. thank you

Vin
 
Hey folks,

This thread ended up being useful to me so I figured I would bump it up and contribute. I created a VBA script in Excel to automate the task of editing the SE XML export files to conform to ME standards. It is by no means refined, but I have tested it and used it successfully on a large amount of conversions. If anyone wants to take it and refine it (better interface, batch support, etc.) by all means please do and repost! I am lazy and just needed to mock up something quick after creating a large project in SE only to learn it should've been done in ME.

All testing was done in FTView 8.1.

You will have to change the file extension from .xls to .xlsm.

You can access to the code and see what the macro is doing by pressing Alt+F11 or going through the developer ribbon in Excel.

There is no malicious code in this file, but be wary of files with macros as they can be dangerous; the functionality will likely be disabled when you first open it.

There may also be additional XML tags or attributes that can be found in SE projects that need to be removed for ME imports. If you find some and aren't confident modifying the code yourself to account for it, go ahead and post about your experience and I will revise the file and re-upload!

Thanks!

Thanks. This worked great! Some work needed to replicate the rest of the automation, but this is a big help.

Has anyone expanded on this? Too bad Rockwell doesn't provide a tool like this in the first place.
 

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